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Published in: Critical Care 1/2024

Open Access 01-12-2024 | Matters Arising

Rotten and gold apples: inside and outside the gray zone of a ROC curve

Authors: Antonio Messina, Michelle Chew, Maurizio Cecconi

Published in: Critical Care | Issue 1/2024

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We were expecting some comment about the results of our paper, since this topic has been debated for years. In the words of George Bernard Shaw “If you have an apple and I have an apple (even rotten, we add) and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas”. So, ideas are always welcome and we read with interest the reply from Michard and colleagues [1]. …
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Messina A, Caporale M, Calabro L, Lionetti G, Bono D, Matronola GM, Brunati A, Frassanito L, Morenghi E, Antonelli M, et al. Reliability of pulse pressure and stroke volume variation in assessing fluid responsiveness in the operating room: a metanalysis and a metaregression. Crit Care. 2023;27(1):431.CrossRefPubMedPubMedCentral
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Metadata
Title
Rotten and gold apples: inside and outside the gray zone of a ROC curve
Authors
Antonio Messina
Michelle Chew
Maurizio Cecconi
Publication date
01-12-2024
Publisher
BioMed Central
Published in
Critical Care / Issue 1/2024
Electronic ISSN: 1364-8535
DOI
https://doi.org/10.1186/s13054-023-04796-w

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